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Unread postby gillmang » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:11 am

That's interesting, I should have thought of that but didn't come close. The rye flavouring element is what I like about whiskey. I can see that many people never come to terms with it because rye in bourbon (never mind rye whiskey) is an unusual, in fact an acquired, taste. The original formulations of wheated whiskey were very good (the early Maker's Mark, the Stitzel-Weller's) and they are a valid sub-set of the bourbon world but to call the rye element of traditional recipe bourbon devilish goes a bit too far I think! I know Maker's likes to present itself as a new and improved form of bourbon and while it has established a foothold it will never replace the original recipe, IMO.

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Unread postby sevenmag » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:26 pm

I had heard that Samuels got the MM recipe from the Van Winkles. Guess they were wrong.
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Unread postby TNbourbon » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:57 pm

sevenmag wrote:I had heard that Samuels got the MM recipe from the Van Winkles. Guess they were wrong.


No, they weren't. You can't always assume Bill Jr.'s account is the Gospel truth. :roll:
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Unread postby Squire » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:16 pm

I keep the history channel on in the background while on coputer and saw that segment. I noticed Bill Jr. looked a bit sheepish while delivering the line and not quite speaking with conviction.

In all fairness he probably followed with the statement that they started up using the recipe and yeast kindly loaned to them by Pappy Van Winkle, but I suppose that part got edited out.

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Unread postby NeoTexan » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:02 pm

I do not think Bill (or MM in particular) is unique in the bourbon industry revising the history of it's product to produce a marketing tale.

For that matter I can think of vendors other than bourbon that have taken liberties with the facts to entice the public to try their product.
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Unread postby brendaj » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:42 pm

for some unknown reason Bill Samuels Jr. appears onscreen. He is talking about how his father replaced rye with wheat

At least you didn't have to endure the one about how they tested the recipe making bread in the kitchen... :roll:
The amazing part is, he somehow managed to appear in a beer documentary. Damn he's good... :lol:
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