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I'm a new registered. Happy to be with you.

What's your favourite???

Knob Creek (Small Batch) - 9 Years - 50%
Four Roses Single Barrel - 10 Years - 50%
Woodford Reserve (Small Batch) - 8/9 Years - 43.2%
Wild Turkey Rare Breed (Cask Strenght) - 6+8+12 Years - 54.5%
Jack Daniels Single Barrel - 6/7 Years - 45% (Isn't a Bourbon, I know it)

Add more if you want.

technically, not a bourbon, but neither are some of the above.....

George Dickel 9 year 103 proof for $46

honorable mentions to Bookers, KCSB, HMcKenna BIB....

Rare Breed is my favorite of those listed.

especially the NEW WTRB!

393foureyedfox wrote:technically, not a bourbon, but neither are some of the above.....

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Why not?????

lucas80 wrote:

393foureyedfox wrote:technically, not a bourbon, but neither are some of the above.....

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Why not?????

while I imagine Dickel could call itself a bourbon and be correct, they choose to separate themselves from the pack and call themselves Tennessee Whisky, with no 'e'. May as well too, as its profile is so unlike any bourbon Ive ever come across; many bourbons you may confuse with one another in a blind tasting, but Dickel's profile is so recognizable theres no way you could not pick it out of a lineup. Great stuff!

Ok, thanks

Hey foureyed fox, Dickel is NOT a bourbon, and the others are. Read your laws concerning what designates bourbon.

That is, except for Jack Daniels.

devilscut wrote:Hey foureyed fox, Dickel is NOT a bourbon, and the others are.

thats exactly what I was saying

What I'm saying is, you said Dickel could call itself a bourbon and be correct. Not so.

devilscut wrote:What I'm saying is, you said Dickel could call itself a bourbon and be correct. Not so.

by law, it could....

On May 4, 1964, the United States Congress recognized Bourbon Whiskey as a “distinctive product of the United States.” The Federal Standards of Identity for Distilled Spirits (27 C.F.R. 5.22) state that bourbon must meet these requirements:


* Bourbon must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn (maize).

* Bourbon must be distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume).

* Neither coloring nor flavoring may be added.

* Bourbon must be aged in new, charred oak barrels.

* Bourbon must be entered into the barrel at no more than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume).

* Bourbon, like other whiskeys, may be bottled at not less than 80 proof (40% alcohol by volume.)

* Bourbon that meets the above requirements and has been aged for a minimum of two years may (but is not required to) be called Straight Bourbon.

* Straight Bourbon aged for a period less than four years must be labeled with the duration of its aging.

* If an age is stated on the label, it must be the age of the youngest whiskey in the bottle.

* Only whiskey produced in the United States can be called bourbon.







I imagine you are referring to either the charcoal filtering or the made in TN part. It cant be called "KY bourbon", but it could be called bourbon and be correct. The laws for bourbon dont seem to negate charcoal filtering, but do negate adding things to the product (colors or flavors). If I missed something, feel free to point it out, but as I see it, if Dickel wanted to label itself 'bourbon', it could....just not "KY bourbon"

I know all of this, so then, how can Dickel say it's a bourbon, since it doesn't meet all these laws. By the way, it can be bottled less than 80 proof, but it would have to say DILUTED on the label.

devilscut wrote:I know all of this, so then, how can Dickel say it's a bourbon, since it doesn't meet all these laws.

which of the rules does it violate, to you, that negates its ability to be called bourbon, if they so chose?


* Bourbon must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn (maize).
DICKEL IS 84% CORN

* Bourbon must be distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume).
THEY DISTILL TO ABOUT 130 PROOF

* Neither coloring nor flavoring may be added.
NONE IS ADDED

* Bourbon must be aged in new, charred oak barrels.
NEW BARRELS ARE USED WITH ALL DISTILLATE

* Bourbon must be entered into the barrel at no more than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume).
THE LAST TOUR i TOOK, BARREL ENTRY WAS STATED TO BE UNDER 125, AND MORE LIKE 110

* Bourbon, like other whiskeys, may be bottled at not less than 80 proof (40% alcohol by volume.)
ALL OF THEIR BOTTLINGS RANGE FROM 80-106

* Bourbon that meets the above requirements and has been aged for a minimum of two years may (but is not required to) be called Straight Bourbon.
OTHER THAN THEIR NEW WHITE DOG #1 BOTTLING, EVERYTHING IS AGED 5-14 YEARS

* Straight Bourbon aged for a period less than four years must be labeled with the duration of its aging.
ONLY THE UNAGED #1 WHITE DOG FITS THIS

* If an age is stated on the label, it must be the age of the youngest whiskey in the bottle.
ONLY THE 9 AND 14 YEAR BOTTLINGS HAVE AGE STATEMENTS

* Only whiskey produced in the United States can be called bourbon.
IT IS ALL MADE IN TN, OTHER THAN THEIR RYE WHICH IS MADE IN IN AND IS A RYE ANYWAY, NOT A BOURBON







I imagine you are referring to either the charcoal filtering or the made in TN part. It cant be called "KY bourbon", but it could be called bourbon and be correct. The laws for bourbon dont seem to negate charcoal filtering, but do negate adding things to the product (colors or flavors). If I missed something, feel free to point it out, but as I see it, if Dickel wanted to label itself 'bourbon', it could....just not "KY bourbon"[/quote]


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